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11 years 5 months ago #1 by Jason E
Do you think you guys will ever do a wordpress / woocommerce to moodle product? If this product were around today, I would buy it.
The problem is that joomla shopping carts are just not as good. There are no shopping carts I have found for joomla that come close to woocommerce and I have tried them all.
You already have the moodle half done and I can't imagine it would be all that much different.
There is a big and growing user base for woocommerce. I was trying out sensei and checking out other LMS products for wordpress but they are nowhere near as robust as moodle and probably never will be.

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11 years 5 months ago - 11 years 5 months ago #2 by Chris
Replied by Chris on topic wordpress woocommerce moodle integration
Thanks for your feedback. The thought of including WP and Droopal have often entered our minds. The challenge is that Joomdle has taken 5 years to get to this level of functionality and a conversion to either platform would be quite challenging especially considering the revenue generated from Joomdle is quite small and done after our day jobs.

That said, for new 'stuff' we tend to build based on feedback and demand and so far you are the first to request Joomdle for WP. I am not sure if 'Build it and they will come' applies to this case or not :)
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11 years 5 months ago #3 by Jason E
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It's an interesting business problem.
I think the main issue is that moodle is the best free LMS system, but it sucks in every other area like user management, seo, newsletter marketing, and shopping cart. All of which are key to good e-commerce and therefore selling courses. This is the reason joomdle exists. People want to sell moodle courses or somehow manage their user base and content better. The number of wordpress installations now dwarfs by far the number of joomla and drupal installations, but that is not necessarily a good indicator. In my opinion, your strategy of building your road map based on feedback from existing users is not a good indicator either. They are not going to help validate a product that is targeting a whole new user base.
For market validation, you can look at the existing LMS systems for wordpress. I think there are 3 or 4 main ones that are specific for wordpress.
Or better yet, create a coming soon page and put the word out and see what kind of response you get.
You could also simultaneously do the same for magento, prestashop, shopify, etc and see where the demand really is and follow the path that indicates the best ROI.

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11 years 5 months ago #4 by Chris
Replied by Chris on topic wordpress woocommerce moodle integration
Thanks for your feedback. My response was rather simplistic to address your specific question. The truth is in most cases we are a step a head of the user feedback - otherwise Joomdle would not have existed in the first place. Ie nobody requested Joomdle we dreamed it up. Like Quiz on the frontend, we made a simple module to see if people would like the idea. Feedback helps drive areas that we may not have thought of or are unique, at first, to a few implementations. Demand is general something we look at in the market and see if there is sufficient demand and/or gaps. You can compare the differences in Joomdle's functionality vs the feature requests here in this forum.

As side from the different ecommerce systems there are also different LMS to consider ie Joomla (or CMS) front end to other LMS (not moodle). The choices are endless. Thus a large factor in determining where to put our effort is our own time. To manage multiple CMS and LMS means we would really need to run a business with full time staff, etc. this is the main consideration. Managing Joomdle (Joomla and Moodle) in our spare time is possible. Managing across multiple requires a very different level of commitment.

Anyway your feedback is very much appreciated. WP is something we will continue to watch and discuss.

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11 years 5 months ago #5 by Jason E
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These guys have a product that links moodle and wp accounts and allows the selling of courses via woocommerce.
wisdmlabs.com/woocommerce-moodle-integration-solution/
What is missing however is to put that in a wrapper so that the user experience is seamless like it is with joomdle.

Perhaps there is a way I could purchase this and hire you to develop the wrapper for it? Then maybe you could reverse engineer it and offer your own product as an alternative.

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11 years 5 months ago #6 by Antonio Durán
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If we were to develop for Wordpress we would do it fresh (ie: no reverse engineer). We would need to learn a lot about Wordpress first, so it is not something that would happen fast.

Also, at this moment, we cannot develop the wrapper solution you are looking for, as we cannot have a timeframe, for the reason explanied above.
Maybe you could find some wordpress programmer that could create it for you, as it should be a simple task to port Joomdle wrapper view to it, for someone that already has Wordpress knowledge.

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10 years 1 month ago - 10 years 1 month ago #7 by Jason E
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I thought I'd check back and see if there has been any more thought about this.
On my end I still want it. I was talking to these guys about their product, but it falls short of what I need.

It does allows to sell moodle courses on woocommerce, which is a major plus.
It does have a makeshift single sign on, but the user experience is not seamless.
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It does not have menu items for logged in users to show "My courses"
It does not have moodle in a wrapper so that the user experience is that they are operating in a single site
It does not allow syncing of custom fields, which for me is mandatory

I have wanted this for a long time and I don't think I'm alone in this. Have you guys done any market testing to see if there is demand?
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10 years 1 month ago #8 by Antonio Durán
Replied by Antonio Durán on topic wordpress woocommerce moodle integration
Hi Jason.

I looked into this a while back, but Wordpress is very different from Joomla, being a blog platform. That makes it much more difficult to create wrapper, "my courses" and all the Joomdle features.
At the moment we are not doing development on this, sorry.

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10 years 2 weeks ago #9 by chirag.shetty
Replied by chirag.shetty on topic wordpress woocommerce moodle integration
Hi,

You can integrate WordPress and moodle seamlessly using the Edwiser bridge plugin. This plugin allows you to import courses from moodle to your Wordpress site. It also provides additional extensions for selling your moodle courses using WooCommerce in WP and single sign in for Wordpress and Moodle website. You can read more about Edwiser Bridge and its extensions here: edwiser.org/

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10 years 2 weeks ago - 10 years 2 weeks ago #10 by Jason E
Replied by Jason E on topic wordpress woocommerce moodle integration
It seems like you didn't read the whole post Chirag.
Edwiser has some problems.
  • It does not have menu items for logged in users to show "My courses"
  • It does not have moodle in a wrapper so that the user experience is that they are operating in a single site
  • It does not allow syncing of custom fields, which for me is mandatory
Last edit: 10 years 2 weeks ago by Jason E.

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